Shokugeki no Souma Chapter 228 Discussion

kingfaces said:
If anyone has seen the show Chopped on Food Network, the rounds in the competition are only 30 minutes long, and by the end of each round just about every chef is exhausted sweating and sometimes even out of breath. So it definitely makes sense that the elites would be drained after two hours of cooking at such a high level

Frostbytes said:
Yeah as usual the author gets hold of a cheap way to make the elites sit out for the third bout, as if they are tired. We Naruto now bois,they depleted their chakra

Anyway the match-up should be eizan vs souma, megumi vs momo and saitou vs takumi. Or eizan vs megumi too for more meme faces

In2TheBlu said:
The stamina drain concept seems like typical shonen trope cop out. Even if one were rattled or shook during a competition it doesn't take one 2 days to recover. The writing got worse ever since Azami was introduced as a villain. He had the potential to be good. Yet, they decided to make him pure evil. Child abuse, blackmail, cheating, and wanting to take over Japan is too much for a cooking manga liek that. This isn't Toriko. Azami's different ideology on it's own is flawed yet an understandable contrast to Tootsuki's ideology. Secondly, the arc is way too long. Central has been in control for roughly half of the manga's run. A small, self-contained arc where we learn more about Erina; and she proves how Tootsuki's methods are superior would've been great. Instead he went for a fish bigger than he could handle. It feels like TOSH's art is wasted with that poor writing from the author.

MortalMelancholy said:
And suddenly people get tired. OK.

ziggy_Z said:
Reading this for 227 chapters, I never thought, nor had any reason to imagine, that this manga would deliver something as intelligence insulting as "Because she's Erza", yet here we are, with the 228th chapter... E X H A U S T I O N

Aside from that, that colour page emphasising Rindou and those two Rindou panels (her condescending smile to Megishima & her being exhausted) were orgasmic. Speaking of which, lmao @ the author not knowing how to explain Megishima's loss, so he just made Rindou look down on him.

G_Spark233 said:
Depleting their energy is a meh plot device but at least it won't make their eventual defeat as BS.

Maledict said:
What a dumb cop-out, honestly. But whatever, I can overlook it.

However, if Megumi of all people wins a fucking match I swear...

uzee said:
wtf, exhaustion from just one match? Regardless of the opponent's abilities, the elite 10 should be at a level where that's not a problem. Or at least be forced to rest for no more than 4 hours... but to state they need to rest 2 days, that's just plot armor for the n-th time :/

Elegade said:
I get the idea of beating them by depleting their stamina, but it is ultimately flawed. We know by past chapters that Tsukasa can serve 9 people a three course meal without even budging on his quality and with no team, and that is the whole day. He probably served close to 30 people daily during the festival. You would need a small brigade of chefs to even accomplish that.

OhBaby said:


This is different. You have to understand the circumstances that he's been under.

Right now, he's facing an elite cook in a food competition. That means he has to exceed his limits and

That's what a food competition is. People here think that it's only about cooking, but you guys have no idea how physically and mentally draining cooking can get. I have been out of breath from a cooking competition before, because of how much effort I had to put into different techniques and overall cooking.

Elegade said:


He is in a cooking competition, but for the most part, back when they were doing the festival, Tsukasa was cooking for the Elites of the gourmet world, not some random country bumpkin with a poors man's pallete. Cooking competition or not, he is only making 3 servings, while at the festival he had to make 9 servings at a time, and has to make 27 servings within an hour or two. This is just a bad plot hole in their part.

OhBaby said:


As I said, you're comparing apples to oranges.

Simply put, cooking competitions are different kind of animals. You're not serving a typical menu from your specialty. You're cooking in a different circumstance.

What sets a cooking competition apart from serving customers in a restaurant-like environment is that you're not cooking in your comfort zone. Which means the competitors have to make a different menus or alter their specialty right off the bat. Which is why you can't compare him making food in a cooking competition vs serving customers in a restaurant. They're totally separate. Only thing they have in common is cooking.


There's a huge difference in cooking in your comfort zone (via serving customers) and cooking out of your comfort zone (cooking competition).

Elegade said:


I would have to disagree that he's not cooking in his comfort zone, for one thing, Tsukasa is a simplistic cook that elevates flavors. so something like Tea Leaves would be an almost perfect match for him. Second, he thrives in a school that has cooking competitions pretty much daily. For him to be first seat, he would have went through hundreds of improv battles. Third, if you watch ameteur cooking competitions Masterchef, or whatever Food Network has to offer (mostly masterchef though) They specifically say in interviews that cooking in a real kitchen is a different beast than just cooking for yourself or for the judges. Mainly because Cooking in a professional kitchen requires you to be much faster, has an enormous workload, have even more multitasking skills, and have impeccable timing. On top of that you would need to serve 100+ guests. Tsukasa basically had to do the work of the line cooks, sous chefs, and head chefs all on his own.

OhBaby said:


Please don't ever refer MasterChef and reality tv shows as a cooking competition. That's a huge insult to real cooking competitions. If you want to talk about cooking competitions, you have to talk about competitions such as the International Culinary Competition, the Global Chefs Challenge, etc... where competitors have FAINTED.

Again, there's a huge difference between competing against normal students vs ELITE cooks like Kuga. You HAVE to be out of your comfort zone. You have to altar your cooking against an elite competitor instead of using JUST your specialty if you want to win.

Elegade said:


I know, I know. Masterchef is rigged. But fainting is like a regular occurrence in a busy kitchen if your're not healthy. My point is not that Competitions aren't hard, but serving 27 courses by yourself is much harder. In professional Kitchens where you have a team, people still faint from stress, and you have other people to back you up. Now imagine having to uphold the standard that you're the first seat, have to cook for the most refined pallets in the world, and have to do that 27 times every hour or two without anyone backing you up.

OhBaby said:


Yeah I get where you're coming from. I might be arguing just for the sake of arguing. But you really have to think about the setting. All I'm saying is that, even a chef like the 1st seat can be physically drained from facing an elite cook like Kuga. Restaurant setting may seem more tiring and draining, but cooking competition like I said is a different animal because you're out of your comfort zone. You're not going through a routine... you're creating one. If there's anything that's kind of unrealistic... it's that Rindou and Tsukasa has to rest for 2 days. That might be the only thing that the author overexaggerated on. 12-14 hours I can understand.. but 48 hours might be pushing it.

OhBaby said:








It's clear how ignorant many of you guys are when it comes to culinary arts. As if cooking can't be tiring. Why do you think there are stories of chefs who gets hospitalized when cooking? Yes I said it. Hospitalized. There are some cooks who have fainted cooking for world class food experts in Europe, because they were so mentally drained. Even in the food olympics (I forgot the name for it), contestants have to routinely sleep for over 12 hours, because of how tired they are.

This is a top class cooking competition where you have to give it your all. Even I have lost my breath and became dizzy from a small scale food competition. It happens.

MortalMelancholy said:

I know head chefs who cook for over 80 hours a week and pianists who play until their fingers bleed. Hell, even high school students taking goddam exams have to focus for 8 hours straight every day, for an entire week. Exhaustion after a single competition is fking pathetic, no matter how you look at it.